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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - Sorry for the insane length of my comment. I didn&#039;t mean to out-write the poster, I know that&#039;s not cool, and I didn&#039;t realize how long it had become. (the preview window stays so innocently small no matter how long I angrily stab at my keyboard) My bad Godless Girl. I had a really bad day, and now I feel much better, so sorry and thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; Sorry for the insane length of my comment. I didn&#8217;t mean to out-write the poster, I know that&#8217;s not cool, and I didn&#8217;t realize how long it had become. (the preview window stays so innocently small no matter how long I angrily stab at my keyboard) My bad Godless Girl. I had a really bad day, and now I feel much better, so sorry and thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/do-you-pinky-swear/comment-page-1/#comment-16243</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say I almost fit the bill for this secular pinky swear, but I still wouldn&#039;t agree to it. I&#039;m most certainly not a closet atheist, almost to a fault. I have had to actually tone my shit down for fear of losing my job. So now when people asking what I am reading I might say philosophy instead of spending the rest of my lunch break in a heated argument with a fundie who&#039;s had their feelings hurt by a book titled God is not Great despite not knowing anything about the contents. Or when my ultra conservative bosses start ranting about the impending doom and tyranny of Islam and how it&#039;s going to destroy freedom and shit on the founding fathers or whatever, I try to just agree with them that Islam is a religion that is counterproductive to human progress without pointing out the glaring counterpoint that the Baptist church may not necessarily be launching us into a Utopian future either. 

So in some respect, out of self preservation, I have to censor my full opinions down to what my bosses won&#039;t get angry about so I don&#039;t lose the tenuous grasp I have on the lower class and (sans-income) begin a spiral down into homelessness and inevitably male prostitution and starvation. (The starvation would be due to my total inability to succeed as a male prostitute. My jaw doesn&#039;t open very far.) I still think I can get on board rule number one though, since even a conscious effort to moderate my detest for the religious right doesn&#039;t filter out enough for anyone to wonder where I stand on the issue. 

I actually make it through the whole list with no more problems, until rule number seven. I find the opinions and actions of the saved, most especially here in the bible belt, to be so perverse, dispicable, and down right sadistic, that I can in no way &quot;strive to respect the dignity of all people&quot;. Without considering any other topic, I think the religious stance on homosexuality alone is enough to condemn anyone who professes belief in the &quot;good&quot; book. When an entire group vocally and energetically denies basic human rights to people outside of their pious holy roller circle jerk, I get pretty pissed off. I would argue that the policies of the american church are so disastrous for progress and equality that those involved should be publicly shamed until they reluctantly drop their bigotry (on the surface) and finally allow people with different beliefs to be treated like actual human beings. As an add-on to that point, I would also argue from my extensive experience with the mind numbing garbage spewed across the nation in the form of conservative radio ready packed for mass consumption by a predominantly white, predominantly christian audience. By extensive experience I mean a forced listening period of at least eight hours a day of conservative talk radio. (I&#039;m getting hungry for a bullet just thinking about it) Over the last year that I have been listening to a work day&#039;s worth of panic soup with hate crackers, I have not been given much of a sense that the religious right in America has any dignity for me to disrespect. Somewhere between screeching like a banshee about how we should be shooting illegal immigrants at the border, and face-sharting ad nauseam to the effect that our country should let the children of minorities go without food because their parents are lazy liberal parasites, my perception of the renowned dignity and civility of people who stockpile food in their bunkers at the advise of their freakishly Aryan-Mormon fear puppeteer with a chalk board fetish shifted from one of respect to one you might experience while poking the maggots out of roadkill with a stick, or inspecting your feces to admire the quantity of corn you consumed the day prior. That is, an attitude of morbid curiosity at best. As a result, even if I found dignity in the cult of Jesus which I had the option of respecting, I don&#039;t feel they deserve it. 

Also I have an aversion to signing up to follow inflexible rules someone else came up with. But despite what my incessant venting may infer, I actually see the point of this pinky swear dealio, and I think it&#039;s good to try to encourage like minded people to stand up for the secular values that so many of us silently adhere to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say I almost fit the bill for this secular pinky swear, but I still wouldn&#8217;t agree to it. I&#8217;m most certainly not a closet atheist, almost to a fault. I have had to actually tone my shit down for fear of losing my job. So now when people asking what I am reading I might say philosophy instead of spending the rest of my lunch break in a heated argument with a fundie who&#8217;s had their feelings hurt by a book titled God is not Great despite not knowing anything about the contents. Or when my ultra conservative bosses start ranting about the impending doom and tyranny of Islam and how it&#8217;s going to destroy freedom and shit on the founding fathers or whatever, I try to just agree with them that Islam is a religion that is counterproductive to human progress without pointing out the glaring counterpoint that the Baptist church may not necessarily be launching us into a Utopian future either. </p>
<p>So in some respect, out of self preservation, I have to censor my full opinions down to what my bosses won&#8217;t get angry about so I don&#8217;t lose the tenuous grasp I have on the lower class and (sans-income) begin a spiral down into homelessness and inevitably male prostitution and starvation. (The starvation would be due to my total inability to succeed as a male prostitute. My jaw doesn&#8217;t open very far.) I still think I can get on board rule number one though, since even a conscious effort to moderate my detest for the religious right doesn&#8217;t filter out enough for anyone to wonder where I stand on the issue. </p>
<p>I actually make it through the whole list with no more problems, until rule number seven. I find the opinions and actions of the saved, most especially here in the bible belt, to be so perverse, dispicable, and down right sadistic, that I can in no way &#8220;strive to respect the dignity of all people&#8221;. Without considering any other topic, I think the religious stance on homosexuality alone is enough to condemn anyone who professes belief in the &#8220;good&#8221; book. When an entire group vocally and energetically denies basic human rights to people outside of their pious holy roller circle jerk, I get pretty pissed off. I would argue that the policies of the american church are so disastrous for progress and equality that those involved should be publicly shamed until they reluctantly drop their bigotry (on the surface) and finally allow people with different beliefs to be treated like actual human beings. As an add-on to that point, I would also argue from my extensive experience with the mind numbing garbage spewed across the nation in the form of conservative radio ready packed for mass consumption by a predominantly white, predominantly christian audience. By extensive experience I mean a forced listening period of at least eight hours a day of conservative talk radio. (I&#8217;m getting hungry for a bullet just thinking about it) Over the last year that I have been listening to a work day&#8217;s worth of panic soup with hate crackers, I have not been given much of a sense that the religious right in America has any dignity for me to disrespect. Somewhere between screeching like a banshee about how we should be shooting illegal immigrants at the border, and face-sharting ad nauseam to the effect that our country should let the children of minorities go without food because their parents are lazy liberal parasites, my perception of the renowned dignity and civility of people who stockpile food in their bunkers at the advise of their freakishly Aryan-Mormon fear puppeteer with a chalk board fetish shifted from one of respect to one you might experience while poking the maggots out of roadkill with a stick, or inspecting your feces to admire the quantity of corn you consumed the day prior. That is, an attitude of morbid curiosity at best. As a result, even if I found dignity in the cult of Jesus which I had the option of respecting, I don&#8217;t feel they deserve it. </p>
<p>Also I have an aversion to signing up to follow inflexible rules someone else came up with. But despite what my incessant venting may infer, I actually see the point of this pinky swear dealio, and I think it&#8217;s good to try to encourage like minded people to stand up for the secular values that so many of us silently adhere to.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/do-you-pinky-swear/comment-page-1/#comment-16049</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea! I always yell out &quot; I swear on my life!&quot; &quot;I swear on all my cookboks!&quot; and other important things. That way friends know they can trust me. 

With other people around I am know for yelling out &quot;I swear to God!&quot; when joking about something. Friends see the jokes, other people believe me. ;)

I mean, why shouldn&#039;t we swear on something everyone can see? Everyone can see me??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea! I always yell out &#8221; I swear on my life!&#8221; &#8220;I swear on all my cookboks!&#8221; and other important things. That way friends know they can trust me. </p>
<p>With other people around I am know for yelling out &#8220;I swear to God!&#8221; when joking about something. Friends see the jokes, other people believe me. <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I mean, why shouldn&#8217;t we swear on something everyone can see? Everyone can see me??</p>
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		<title>By: Godless Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/do-you-pinky-swear/comment-page-1/#comment-10434</link>
		<dc:creator>Godless Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>d&#039;awwww *sends hugs and a fruit basket*</description>
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		<title>By: TheSecretAtheist</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/do-you-pinky-swear/comment-page-1/#comment-10410</link>
		<dc:creator>TheSecretAtheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 04:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I was in a position where I could do this.  Those of you who have read my story know that I&#039;m still totally closeted (well, almost totally, there are a select few who know) and working in a job where I can&#039;t come out as an atheist.  

(Hmm...  I think there may be another atheist blogger who has been in a similar place before, I wonder who that could be? :D)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I was in a position where I could do this.  Those of you who have read my story know that I&#8217;m still totally closeted (well, almost totally, there are a select few who know) and working in a job where I can&#8217;t come out as an atheist.  </p>
<p>(Hmm&#8230;  I think there may be another atheist blogger who has been in a similar place before, I wonder who that could be? <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: godlessgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/do-you-pinky-swear/comment-page-1/#comment-1684</link>
		<dc:creator>godlessgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*laughing at &quot;stumbling block&quot;* May I say (r)amen to that? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*laughing at &quot;stumbling block&quot;* May I say (r)amen to that?</p>
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		<title>By: godlessgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/do-you-pinky-swear/comment-page-1/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>godlessgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internet stalker? Hardly. He just described a guy who likes to picture breasts. Whoopdeedo. No implication and it comes off like a strawman. 
Despite my defense of this guy, I totally agree that this whole reaction comes from repressing healthy sexuality. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet stalker? Hardly. He just described a guy who likes to picture breasts. Whoopdeedo. No implication and it comes off like a strawman.<br />
Despite my defense of this guy, I totally agree that this whole reaction comes from repressing healthy sexuality.</p>
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		<title>By: godlessgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>godlessgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t surprise me that they believe your &quot;moral upright attitudes&quot; have solely to do with your faith and not to do with--you know--YOU. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#039;t surprise me that they believe your &quot;moral upright attitudes&quot; have solely to do with your faith and not to do with&#8211;you know&#8211;YOU.</p>
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		<title>By: amber, theAmberShow</title>
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		<dc:creator>amber, theAmberShow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my god.  I escaped the church in part because I never wanted to hear the phrase &quot;stumbling block&quot; ever again.  (I don&#039;t think &quot;JoeBob&quot; even used the term, but I was bracing for it.)  Only under the repressive cloak of strict organized religion can a mentally healthy, fully grown, married man feel that knowing a woman&#039;s bra color could make a straight guy over the age of 14 think dirty thoughts.  I am so glad that if I have a son he&#039;ll be raised to laugh it off should he ever come across the knowledge of his female friend&#039;s undergarments.  Yet another reason to leave Christianity for me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god.  I escaped the church in part because I never wanted to hear the phrase &quot;stumbling block&quot; ever again.  (I don&#039;t think &quot;JoeBob&quot; even used the term, but I was bracing for it.)  Only under the repressive cloak of strict organized religion can a mentally healthy, fully grown, married man feel that knowing a woman&#039;s bra color could make a straight guy over the age of 14 think dirty thoughts.  I am so glad that if I have a son he&#039;ll be raised to laugh it off should he ever come across the knowledge of his female friend&#039;s undergarments.  Yet another reason to leave Christianity for me.</p>
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		<title>By: mcbender</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/do-you-pinky-swear/comment-page-1/#comment-1679</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 23:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an atheist man who is extremely prudish for some reason when it comes to sexual matters, I still think this letter is 100% bullshit.  I don&#039;t understand how knowing anything about the colour of some woman&#039;s brassiere has any effect on anything - even my own mental state.  It doesn&#039;t cause me to think about that woman&#039;s breasts or to fantasise about engaging in sexual congress with her; all it does is make me wonder why on earth she would care to disclose that information and/or what she thinks it will accomplish.  This letter only serves to highlight the mental issues of the man who wrote it. 
 
I have neuroses that make me extremely uncomfortable with sex, but I don&#039;t project them onto everybody else (well, within reason - I don&#039;t like to see people engaging in overly passionate &quot;public displays of affection&quot; and I might snidely ask them to get a room, but aside from that...), and I think that&#039;s the difference between somebody like me and somebody like the man in question who is basing his concerns on religion.  I know that my issues are irrational; he does not. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an atheist man who is extremely prudish for some reason when it comes to sexual matters, I still think this letter is 100% bullshit.  I don&#039;t understand how knowing anything about the colour of some woman&#039;s brassiere has any effect on anything &#8211; even my own mental state.  It doesn&#039;t cause me to think about that woman&#039;s breasts or to fantasise about engaging in sexual congress with her; all it does is make me wonder why on earth she would care to disclose that information and/or what she thinks it will accomplish.  This letter only serves to highlight the mental issues of the man who wrote it. </p>
<p>I have neuroses that make me extremely uncomfortable with sex, but I don&#039;t project them onto everybody else (well, within reason &#8211; I don&#039;t like to see people engaging in overly passionate &quot;public displays of affection&quot; and I might snidely ask them to get a room, but aside from that&#8230;), and I think that&#039;s the difference between somebody like me and somebody like the man in question who is basing his concerns on religion.  I know that my issues are irrational; he does not.</p>
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