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	<title>Comments on: Trapped in a Public Prayer</title>
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		<title>By: Dear Godless Girl: Saying Grace? &#124; Godless Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-16962</link>
		<dc:creator>Dear Godless Girl: Saying Grace? &#124; Godless Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 20:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m at work (a Christian company) and I am expected to pray aloud, I have chosen not to abstain, but to say my secular wishes and hopes for those around me and the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonno</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-12112</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prayer is just basically Cosmic Ordering &quot;ask and you will receive.&quot;  Funnily enough, the religious hate the idea of such &#039;selfish&#039; New Age ideas but package it in the One True Faith :) and it&#039;s suddenly okay.  You equipped yourself admirably and I would have more than likely done something similar, said a bunch of words but without putting in any &#039;god-intent&#039; behind them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prayer is just basically Cosmic Ordering &#8220;ask and you will receive.&#8221;  Funnily enough, the religious hate the idea of such &#8216;selfish&#8217; New Age ideas but package it in the One True Faith <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  and it&#8217;s suddenly okay.  You equipped yourself admirably and I would have more than likely done something similar, said a bunch of words but without putting in any &#8216;god-intent&#8217; behind them.</p>
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		<title>By: wildmonky</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-12052</link>
		<dc:creator>wildmonky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I woulda handled it similarly.Really what prayer is is just hope and well wishes. The intent of yours was the same as their&#039;s, you just don&#039;t attach magic to it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I woulda handled it similarly.Really what prayer is is just hope and well wishes. The intent of yours was the same as their&#8217;s, you just don&#8217;t attach magic to it <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-5924</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not at all unfair to &#039;put everyone on the spot like that&#039; -- in a Christian workplace, and I assume it&#039;s a non-profit, prayer is expected as a condition of employment.  There are very specific clauses in employment law which allow for this sort of behavior, which in any secular business would be actionable.

Also, I feel your pain, sistah.  I too am an atheist working in a Christian org.  However, I am there as a contractor, so while I am allowed and encouraged to participate in such activities as devotionals and chapel and mandatory prayer in meetings, I can quietly avoid active participation.  I don&#039;t make an issue of my atheism -- I definitely like being employed -- but I do my very best not to cave and participate either.

In my case no one directly asks me to pray, so I have not come up against this issue. Kudos to you for handling it graciously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not at all unfair to &#8216;put everyone on the spot like that&#8217; &#8212; in a Christian workplace, and I assume it&#8217;s a non-profit, prayer is expected as a condition of employment.  There are very specific clauses in employment law which allow for this sort of behavior, which in any secular business would be actionable.</p>
<p>Also, I feel your pain, sistah.  I too am an atheist working in a Christian org.  However, I am there as a contractor, so while I am allowed and encouraged to participate in such activities as devotionals and chapel and mandatory prayer in meetings, I can quietly avoid active participation.  I don&#8217;t make an issue of my atheism &#8212; I definitely like being employed &#8212; but I do my very best not to cave and participate either.</p>
<p>In my case no one directly asks me to pray, so I have not come up against this issue. Kudos to you for handling it graciously.</p>
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		<title>By: godlessgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>godlessgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You reminded me of something I recently read--that it would be extremely unjust if God responded to the intercessory prayers of one friend for another. What about the lonely hermit with no friends to pray for him? Is he up a creek? :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You reminded me of something I recently read&#8211;that it would be extremely unjust if God responded to the intercessory prayers of one friend for another. What about the lonely hermit with no friends to pray for him? Is he up a creek? <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: godlessgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>godlessgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it takes a prayer for them to know how I care for their wellbeing, then I&#039;m shit outta luck. Thanks James :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it takes a prayer for them to know how I care for their wellbeing, then I&#039;m shit outta luck. Thanks James <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: @rickbert</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>@rickbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 20:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GG - good for you for rolling with the situation.  Very uncomfortable and unfair of them to put everyone on the spot like that.  I find it offensive (and simultaneously hilarious) that there are still GROWN ADULTS that talk to imaginary friends.  And that they expect her/him/it to care/answer.  It&#039;s a step removed from cavemen, IMO.  Worshiping the sun makes more sense - at least it&#039;s real and we derive tangible benefits from its existence :) 
 
I don&#039;t know what I would have done, but it would probably be somewhere in between what you did and just bursting out laughing? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GG &#8211; good for you for rolling with the situation.  Very uncomfortable and unfair of them to put everyone on the spot like that.  I find it offensive (and simultaneously hilarious) that there are still GROWN ADULTS that talk to imaginary friends.  And that they expect her/him/it to care/answer.  It&#039;s a step removed from cavemen, IMO.  Worshiping the sun makes more sense &#8211; at least it&#039;s real and we derive tangible benefits from its existence <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I don&#039;t know what I would have done, but it would probably be somewhere in between what you did and just bursting out laughing?</p>
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		<title>By: hubbit</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>hubbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To Whom It May Concern:&quot;....no? :D

Prayer is a funny thing. On the one hand, those who pray believe in a power higher than themselves, to whom they can address their concerns and requests. On the other hand, they are being presumptuous, if not downright arrogant, by asking for what their omniscient target is believe to know that they need, and by reminding him of what he is recorded as having said aeons ago.

And yet, it is a widespread cultural phenomenon. There are times when I wonder what the original &quot;ancestor religion&quot; was, where we got the idea in the first place and how/why it got handed down through the generations.

In the meantime, it sounds very much as though you did the best you could under the circumstances. It&#039;s hard to think creatively when put on the spot, especially in situations where one wants to be a quiet non-participant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To Whom It May Concern:&#8221;&#8230;.no? <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Prayer is a funny thing. On the one hand, those who pray believe in a power higher than themselves, to whom they can address their concerns and requests. On the other hand, they are being presumptuous, if not downright arrogant, by asking for what their omniscient target is believe to know that they need, and by reminding him of what he is recorded as having said aeons ago.</p>
<p>And yet, it is a widespread cultural phenomenon. There are times when I wonder what the original &#8220;ancestor religion&#8221; was, where we got the idea in the first place and how/why it got handed down through the generations.</p>
<p>In the meantime, it sounds very much as though you did the best you could under the circumstances. It&#8217;s hard to think creatively when put on the spot, especially in situations where one wants to be a quiet non-participant.</p>
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		<title>By: James Tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>James Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 17:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you did the best you could given the circumstances. I hope your boss appreciated the thoughtful wishes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you did the best you could given the circumstances. I hope your boss appreciated the thoughtful wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: godlessgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2009/05/trapped-in-a-public-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>godlessgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 16:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody, since I don&#039;t pray nor believe in a higher power. I simply voiced my wishes and hopes for that person. That doesn&#039;t require prayer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody, since I don&#039;t pray nor believe in a higher power. I simply voiced my wishes and hopes for that person. That doesn&#039;t require prayer.</p>
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