God + torture = love?

Photo © Jim Kuhn

Photo © Jim Kuhn

I suppose I’m a bit of an atheist cliché. I have expressed on numerous occasions my distaste for the Judeo-Christian god as depicted in the Bible. (check out why God’s justice is anti-American and God is immoral). But if we don’t speak up about the inconsistencies we observe, they might go un-recognized by those who seek the truth. So in the name of critical thinking, I’ll continue to challenge the Get Out of Jail Free card often handed to God even when our own reasoning indicates he’s in violation of the most basic standards of morality.

So, what about torture? This topic has been the focus of a steady buzz in past months, but only recently have I had much personal interaction with the topic.

A devout acquaintance of mine lauded the “just” and “righteous” judgments of Yahweh. She spoke to me of how comforting it is to her that even if we can’t have perfect justice in this world, there is a perfect judgment that awaits sinners. I realize that she was speaking of the worst of people: rapists, murderers, and the dregs of society. But I know in the back of her mind, she realizes and accepts that even the most kind, generous, and loving of people will be treated the same as these if they are not “saved”.

Is she not bothered by this? Why do many Christians (including my past self) not quake and protest against the discontinuity we see in God’s justice?

  • Jesus taught “turn the other cheek” (Matthew 5:39 [show] But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (ESV)
    This text is from the ESV Bible. Visit www.esv.org to learn about the ESV.
    ) and “love your enemy” (Matthew 5:43-44 [show] "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, (ESV)
    This text is from the ESV Bible. Visit www.esv.org to learn about the ESV.
    ).

But Yahweh does not turn the other cheek. Instead he sends people he supposedly loves unconditionally to a place of eternal pain and despair if they violate any of his rules.

But Yahweh has been and will be torturing billions of people: eternally, without end, forever, mercilessly, with no hope of freedom or release, again and again, in terrible and horrific ways we cannot possibly fathom in a lovely little vacation spot called Hell. And the only way to get out of this torture is to admit what he wants you to admit under duress.

How is this admirable? How is temporary torture by humans a nauseating, unloving crime, and eternal torture by a deity “good” and “just” and “deserved”?

4 Responses to “God + torture = love?”

  1. Too many Christians are of the mindset: "I got mine (I'm saved) so screw you. After all if you kowtowed to god just right then you'd be saved too–like me. It's your own fault that you're going to burn in hell forever so why should I feel sorry for you. "

    My lovely summed it up best. If you had a child who made a mistake, even many mistakes, would you sentence him/her to eternal torture? If not, why do you accept a god that would do so to his "children", and even relish the idea of such a fate occurring to others?

    Nobody should accept such a sadistic brute as their god. Nor should they demand others do so.

  2. It's a lot like the conflict between science and faith that goes on in many heads — the one that usually gets resolved through a kind of compartmentalization. People do the same thing with ethics. They define God as "Good," and his actions as "Good," so everything they see has to be interpreted somehow in that light. No matter how desperately they have to strain to do it, they do it, and push it all into the little God Box in their brain and mostly don't think about it.

    • I did that exact thing! I'm honestly trying to figure out how I made the switch from defending this "good no matter how bad" God to being more objective….hmmm

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