Daily Life of an Atheist

For mainstream, American Christians, living as a believer means packing God into every nook and cranny. The goal is to push yourself and your natural habits, tastes, desires, and thoughts out. The more visible God is in your life (through bible study, prayer, church, etc.) and the more disciplined you are, the more holy you would become. After such prolonged exposure to God it’s sort of like getting skin cancer if you decide to go tanning and look like an overcooked carrot all year round.

Here’s a perfect example of the vocabulary used to describe The ideal Christian “walk”, life, day, and dreams from KristinaLovesJesus.

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What can we learn from this, children? Read on!

To be a great Christian you:

  • Praise God in the morning
  • Eat Atheists for breakfast
  • Don’t think for yourself–think for God
  • Pray all day long
  • Give up your goals and dreams to your imaginary friend to decide for you.
  • Know your apologetics
  • Forgo socialization and healthy relationships for mediation, prayer, and spiritual growth.
  • Really “feel” God through prayer and devotionals. Cry or it ain’t real!
  • Deny and hate being a normal human. Body/flesh is bad. Spirit is good.
  • Make a public video telling about all the ways you’re a humble, devoted Christian.

Kristina inspires me to examine my own life and see what about being an atheist makes my daily life different than a Christian’s.

My Daily Heathen Life

As an atheist I…

  • Wake up and hit the snooze button as often as possible until I panic about being late.
  • Eat babies for breakfast.
  • Go to work. In case I feel bored, I pray to no one and ask no one for help feeling motivated because I’m not working for a higher purpose; I’m working to finance my life.
  • Make goals for my life based on my interests, better judgment, and fear of failure. They might change because I might change.
  • Like Kristina, find myself alone a lot. This is my own damn fault (anyone wanna hang out?).
  • Read books on atheism, science, and even novels like *gasp* Harry Potter. I use my intelligence and reading to find meaning in what I read, not an imaginary being I made up.
  • Spend a lot of time online blogging, tweeting, reading, conversing with friends, researching, watching media, and absorbing all kinds of random stuff.
  • Also like Kristina, I don’t go out and party much because it just isn’t my scene. I’m a pretty chill individual who digs sobriety and dorkishness. This may be why I need more friends.
  • Sometimes go on brief walks listening to music, appreciating nature and art. Sometimes I cry when I am overwhelmed by the vastness of the universe and how I am a sentient being able to appreciate and understand any of it.
  • Have no problem acting on my own impulses within the measure of control necessary to be a beneficial member of society.
  • Try not to be a douchebag, but sometimes I fail. In the end it’s about improving my life so I can improve the lives of those around me, right? Yeah, gotta work on that because I’ve gotten lazy. There’s my “humble heathen” moment for ya.

Just live your life, folks. Don’t live how you think someone else wants you to. Let them, deity or human, life their own lives and get the heck out of yours. Enjoy!

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August 7, 2009  |  Christianity, personal

22 Comments


  1. Well said! Poor Kristina doesn't seem to have enough brains in her head to live for herself anyway, but that's her own poverty. And yes I wanna hang out!

    • I bet if she could just calm down on the zealous way she presents her faith and let herself have a little fun, I'd get along with her pretty well. Oh, but I'd tell her sparkles are for pansy vampires and drag queens. That's unacceptable.

      So when are you coming to Chicago? haha

  2. hey, if i lived in chicago, i'd hang with you! you seem pretty cool!

  3. I was waitng to see the "My Daily Atheist Life" video. :) lol

  4. "Make goals for my life based on my interests, better judgment, and fear of failure. They might change because I might change."

    This. I loved your whole list, but that point seemed a particularly lovely summation of how to approach life.

    I just discovered your site, and I'm greatly enjoying reading your posts. :)

  5. Praise God in the morning
    (This is an exercise for being grateful-again Christianity is a relationship)
    Eat Atheists for breakfast
    (The vid doesn’t work but I would say this is something about knowing how to share your faith- unless you want people running around like the WBC)
    Don’t think for yourself–think for God
    (An arrogant misconception,think of it this way. -A friend is in need of something- you also need that thing- but you put God first which means- you follow what he says “Love your neighbor as yourself”)
    Pray all day long
    (I am not asking if you are allowed, but I am asking if you are physically capable of doing certain things while listening/singing along with your Ipod?)-(Praying all day long while doing tasks is not too different and it isn’t as if you pray about yourself all day, me and my friends pray for other people, ex: you see an ambulance pass by, you pray for those people and their loved ones)

    Give up your goals and dreams to your imaginary friend to decide for you.
    (Goals like “I wanna have money, cars, mansion, popularity, etc”)
    (Turn it into ” I want to help the homeless, make more money so I can donate more money to certain organizations or even help out a local orphan or widow”)

    Know your apologetics
    (Yes, obviously cause apparently certain people claim to have been christians for 22 years and magically have a question for why this and why that but oftentimes just quit because its not the questions they hate, they hate the “do good deeds, forgive others, help the needy, volunteer at a homeless shelter, save some money and support a child in africa.- it is easier to dismiss the faith and say there are no questions )

    Forgo socialization and healthy relationships for mediation, prayer, and spiritual growth.
    (Avoiding bad company, drinking, partying, doesn’t mean avoid socialization, haha, me and my friends have so much fun hanging out and socializing that we got muslims and atheists joining us and eventually accepting christ just cause they love the brotherhood and clean fun)

    Really “feel” God through prayer and devotionals. Cry or it ain’t real!
    (Haha, Men with no souls do not cry)-(God does work and this is why plenty of people don’t leave Christianity even when they never study apologetics and get attacked by atheists, because their experience of God’s presence is so vivid and real-this is when people start to experience supernatural things and miracles)

    Deny and hate being a normal human. Body/flesh is bad. Spirit is good.
    (The term body and flesh in psychology is ID, basically the carnal desires or the ID/SELF. Even in psychology the ID is considered a negative thing, it does not mean leave the realm or reality, I hope the ID term helped you understand the terminology. Another way to put it is this.. Stop being vain, materialistic, selfish, self centered, stuck up, greedy, and ignorant of the people in need around you.)

    Make a public video telling about all the ways you’re a humble, devoted Christian.
    (Youtube is the new media, if it were back in the days it would be written as letters like those of the apostles- as for the way you put it.. You seem to be admitting that life as a christian is a good thing and that talking about your good deeds is somewhat bragging thus the term “humble” )

    • You are obviously a believer.

      Give up your goals and dreams to your imaginary friend to decide for you.
      (Goals like “I wanna have money, cars, mansion, popularity, etc”)
      (Turn it into ” I want to help the homeless, make more money so I can donate more money to certain organizations or even help out a local orphan or widow”
      Just because we don’t believe in a god doesn’t mean we don’t have morals. Plenty of atheists donate to homeless shelters and stuff like that. In fact, we don’t donate money to a church to pay for ‘the blood of christ’, instead, we donate it to starving children in Africa. So what if we want a nice house and a good car. Having popularity us not a bad thing and not all atheists want to be popular.
      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
      Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
      Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
      Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

      • I never said that you didn’t have any morals. The whole thing is a challenge.
        Saying plenty of atheists do such and such doesn’t match the challenge, the question is, DO YOU.
        Popularity is not a bad thing indeed, depends on how you use it.
        But the fact that people chase after it is the issue, not popularity itself.

        As for  the issue of evil, the answer is simple.
        Free Will and Heaven.

        Willing but not able =
        Able but not willing =
         Heaven is the response to these- He already created heaven.

        Whence cometh evil? – Humans Willingness to create it.
        The last part.
        Able /  Willing / Therefore call him God.

        The real issue is that people want these things to happen in THEIR chosen time.
        — RIGHT NOW–
        But that is just silly.
        If he ended the world tomorrow and finally sorted it out.
        People will complain that he didn’t do it 1 hour earlier before they were gunned down at the 7 eleven.
        Everyone will complain about the end not arriving in their desired time basically.

        So on judgement day I could say. 
        God you ended the world on the 29th but my whole family was mugged tortured and abused on the 28th?

        Why didn’t you end the world earlier, like 27th?

        The next guy says, No man… My family was abused on the 26th

        No man  make it earlier, my sister was kidnapped on the 1st.

        No move it one year before that..
        Then the year before that
        then the year before that…

        You get the idea now?
         Evenually everyone will want to move the date to the day before they suffered something painful and traumatic.

        That is ignoring what God wants to happen and putting our agendas.
        God wants as many sinners to have enough time to repent.
        I do not belittle the things you suffered, nor do I want anyone belittling the things I suffered, so lets call that even.

        God however is shown to be good and just, he is more than capable of making up for what people have suffered on this earth.
        On one of these posts I mentioned the leper and the rich man, where neither of them prayed the sinners prayer and yet they ended up in two different places in the afterlife.

        God is a fair judge and he can give us more than a billion years of heaven with our loved ones for every single minute that we have lost them here on earth.

        As for the problem of evil. C.S Lewis the theologian and also author of Narnia has really good points on this. I will just write down some short examples.

        Say I give you a choice to do good or harm
        But, I turned the world so that no matter what you do, nobody gets hurt.

        So, lets say you can choose to hit someone with a stick, but everytime you swing the stick, it loses mass and thus hits the other person without them even feeling it.
        Everytime you try to take something that doesn’t belong to you, it disappears.
        Every time you try to say something hurtful towards someone, your lips don’t move and you instantly turn mute.

        Oh but it doesn’t stop there….
        Before you even THINK of something malicious.
        You end up losing consciousness and forget what you were about to think…

        You didn’t think about that did you?
        That God does not only want to stop EVIL  EVENTS
        but even EVIL THOUGHTS

        you might not be offended at evil thoughts, but what if you could hear them?
        Well he can.

        Oh not even..
        Imagine you got a little sister.
        And you got a neighbor
        and every time he looks at her
        he thinks all sorts of things he wants to do to her

        would you trust that guy? he never done anything wrong.
        and say he never will.  would you still want your sister around  that person?
        be honest.

        As for people dying on earth..
        I think I posted it before already,
        but I would also like to ask you.

        So you want nobody to die until at least the age 100
        and nobody to ever get sick until when?

        How about someone who disagrees and wants the number to be brought to 120
        then 150 and 200 and 350 and 500
        and then someone just says, NO I DON’T WANT ANYONE DYING

        Isn’t that interesting…

        Well that is what heaven is for.

        But for this world of 80-100 years… there is still a plan being implemented.
        God wants people to see a world where our desires  RULE. We see the results of malicious actions.

        But there is hope.
        God is not willing that anyone perish. This is why he wants to save everyone.

        Do you want to be saved?

        Did you use to be “christian” but never understood it til now?

        None of us are worthy of heaven.  Even if you haven’t done acts of  malice and evil, you have thoughts and words that can and possibly have hurt somebody.

        If you are willing to take a second chance. That is what being BORN AGAIN is about.

        Not getting dunked in water or joining the Jesus club..
        It simply means being reborn or starting new and fresh.

        That is what it is.  Not some half hearted sinners prayer.
        It is a sincere desire to start over with forgiveness on your side enough to cover your future faults- faults bear in mind are not the same as deliberate continued sin. Kinda like accidents. You do your best, and God will do the rest.

      • I never said that you didn’t have any morals. The whole thing is a challenge.
        Saying plenty of atheists do such and such doesn’t match the challenge, the question is, DO YOU.
        Popularity is not a bad thing indeed, depends on how you use it.
        But the fact that people chase after it is the issue, not popularity itself.

        As for  the issue of evil, the answer is simple.
        Free Will and Heaven.

        Willing but not able =
        Able but not willing =
         Heaven is the response to these- He already created heaven.

        Whence cometh evil? – Humans Willingness to create it.
        The last part.
        Able /  Willing / Therefore call him God.

        The real issue is that people want these things to happen in THEIR chosen time.
        — RIGHT NOW–
        But that is just silly.
        If he ended the world tomorrow and finally sorted it out.
        People will complain that he didn’t do it 1 hour earlier before they were gunned down at the 7 eleven.
        Everyone will complain about the end not arriving in their desired time basically.

        So on judgement day I could say. 
        God you ended the world on the 29th but my whole family was mugged tortured and abused on the 28th?

        Why didn’t you end the world earlier, like 27th?

        The next guy says, No man… My family was abused on the 26th

        No man  make it earlier, my sister was kidnapped on the 1st.

        No move it one year before that..
        Then the year before that
        then the year before that…

        You get the idea now?
         Evenually everyone will want to move the date to the day before they suffered something painful and traumatic.

        That is ignoring what God wants to happen and putting our agendas.
        God wants as many sinners to have enough time to repent.
        I do not belittle the things you suffered, nor do I want anyone belittling the things I suffered, so lets call that even.

        God however is shown to be good and just, he is more than capable of making up for what people have suffered on this earth.
        On one of these posts I mentioned the leper and the rich man, where neither of them prayed the sinners prayer and yet they ended up in two different places in the afterlife.

        God is a fair judge and he can give us more than a billion years of heaven with our loved ones for every single minute that we have lost them here on earth.

        As for the problem of evil. C.S Lewis the theologian and also author of Narnia has really good points on this. I will just write down some short examples.

        Say I give you a choice to do good or harm
        But, I turned the world so that no matter what you do, nobody gets hurt.

        So, lets say you can choose to hit someone with a stick, but everytime you swing the stick, it loses mass and thus hits the other person without them even feeling it.
        Everytime you try to take something that doesn’t belong to you, it disappears.
        Every time you try to say something hurtful towards someone, your lips don’t move and you instantly turn mute.

        Oh but it doesn’t stop there….
        Before you even THINK of something malicious.
        You end up losing consciousness and forget what you were about to think…

        You didn’t think about that did you?
        That God does not only want to stop EVIL  EVENTS
        but even EVIL THOUGHTS

        you might not be offended at evil thoughts, but what if you could hear them?
        Well he can.

        Oh not even..
        Imagine you got a little sister.
        And you got a neighbor
        and every time he looks at her
        he thinks all sorts of things he wants to do to her

        would you trust that guy? he never done anything wrong.
        and say he never will.  would you still want your sister around  that person?
        be honest.

        As for people dying on earth..
        I think I posted it before already,
        but I would also like to ask you.

        So you want nobody to die until at least the age 100
        and nobody to ever get sick until when?

        How about someone who disagrees and wants the number to be brought to 120
        then 150 and 200 and 350 and 500
        and then someone just says, NO I DON’T WANT ANYONE DYING

        Isn’t that interesting…

        Well that is what heaven is for.

        But for this world of 80-100 years… there is still a plan being implemented.
        God wants people to see a world where our desires  RULE. We see the results of malicious actions.

        But there is hope.
        God is not willing that anyone perish. This is why he wants to save everyone.

        Do you want to be saved?

        Did you use to be “christian” but never understood it til now?

        None of us are worthy of heaven.  Even if you haven’t done acts of  malice and evil, you have thoughts and words that can and possibly have hurt somebody.

        If you are willing to take a second chance. That is what being BORN AGAIN is about.

        Not getting dunked in water or joining the Jesus club..
        It simply means being reborn or starting new and fresh.

        That is what it is.  Not some half hearted sinners prayer.
        It is a sincere desire to start over with forgiveness on your side enough to cover your future faults- faults bear in mind are not the same as deliberate continued sin. Kinda like accidents. You do your best, and God will do the rest.

      • I never said that you didn’t have any morals. The whole thing is a challenge.
        Saying plenty of atheists do such and such doesn’t match the challenge, the question is, DO YOU.
        Popularity is not a bad thing indeed, depends on how you use it.
        But the fact that people chase after it is the issue, not popularity itself.

        As for  the issue of evil, the answer is simple.
        Free Will and Heaven.

        Willing but not able =
        Able but not willing =
         Heaven is the response to these- He already created heaven.

        Whence cometh evil? – Humans Willingness to create it.
        The last part.
        Able /  Willing / Therefore call him God.

        The real issue is that people want these things to happen in THEIR chosen time.
        — RIGHT NOW–
        But that is just silly.
        If he ended the world tomorrow and finally sorted it out.
        People will complain that he didn’t do it 1 hour earlier before they were gunned down at the 7 eleven.
        Everyone will complain about the end not arriving in their desired time basically.

        So on judgement day I could say. 
        God you ended the world on the 29th but my whole family was mugged tortured and abused on the 28th?

        Why didn’t you end the world earlier, like 27th?

        The next guy says, No man… My family was abused on the 26th

        No man  make it earlier, my sister was kidnapped on the 1st.

        No move it one year before that..
        Then the year before that
        then the year before that…

        You get the idea now?
         Evenually everyone will want to move the date to the day before they suffered something painful and traumatic.

        That is ignoring what God wants to happen and putting our agendas.
        God wants as many sinners to have enough time to repent.
        I do not belittle the things you suffered, nor do I want anyone belittling the things I suffered, so lets call that even.

        God however is shown to be good and just, he is more than capable of making up for what people have suffered on this earth.
        On one of these posts I mentioned the leper and the rich man, where neither of them prayed the sinners prayer and yet they ended up in two different places in the afterlife.

        God is a fair judge and he can give us more than a billion years of heaven with our loved ones for every single minute that we have lost them here on earth.

        As for the problem of evil. C.S Lewis the theologian and also author of Narnia has really good points on this. I will just write down some short examples.

        Say I give you a choice to do good or harm
        But, I turned the world so that no matter what you do, nobody gets hurt.

        So, lets say you can choose to hit someone with a stick, but everytime you swing the stick, it loses mass and thus hits the other person without them even feeling it.
        Everytime you try to take something that doesn’t belong to you, it disappears.
        Every time you try to say something hurtful towards someone, your lips don’t move and you instantly turn mute.

        Oh but it doesn’t stop there….
        Before you even THINK of something malicious.
        You end up losing consciousness and forget what you were about to think…

        You didn’t think about that did you?
        That God does not only want to stop EVIL  EVENTS
        but even EVIL THOUGHTS

        you might not be offended at evil thoughts, but what if you could hear them?
        Well he can.

        Oh not even..
        Imagine you got a little sister.
        And you got a neighbor
        and every time he looks at her
        he thinks all sorts of things he wants to do to her

        would you trust that guy? he never done anything wrong.
        and say he never will.  would you still want your sister around  that person?
        be honest.

        As for people dying on earth..
        I think I posted it before already,
        but I would also like to ask you.

        So you want nobody to die until at least the age 100
        and nobody to ever get sick until when?

        How about someone who disagrees and wants the number to be brought to 120
        then 150 and 200 and 350 and 500
        and then someone just says, NO I DON’T WANT ANYONE DYING

        Isn’t that interesting…

        Well that is what heaven is for.

        But for this world of 80-100 years… there is still a plan being implemented.
        God wants people to see a world where our desires  RULE. We see the results of malicious actions.

        But there is hope.
        God is not willing that anyone perish. This is why he wants to save everyone.

        Do you want to be saved?

        Did you use to be “christian” but never understood it til now?

        None of us are worthy of heaven.  Even if you haven’t done acts of  malice and evil, you have thoughts and words that can and possibly have hurt somebody.

        If you are willing to take a second chance. That is what being BORN AGAIN is about.

        Not getting dunked in water or joining the Jesus club..
        It simply means being reborn or starting new and fresh.

        That is what it is.  Not some half hearted sinners prayer.
        It is a sincere desire to start over with forgiveness on your side enough to cover your future faults- faults bear in mind are not the same as deliberate continued sin. Kinda like accidents. You do your best, and God will do the rest.

      • I never said that you didn’t have any morals. The whole thing is a challenge.
        Saying plenty of atheists do such and such doesn’t match the challenge, the question is, DO YOU.
        Popularity is not a bad thing indeed, depends on how you use it.
        But the fact that people chase after it is the issue, not popularity itself.

        As for  the issue of evil, the answer is simple.
        Free Will and Heaven.

        Willing but not able =
        Able but not willing =
         Heaven is the response to these- He already created heaven.

        Whence cometh evil? – Humans Willingness to create it.
        The last part.
        Able /  Willing / Therefore call him God.

        The real issue is that people want these things to happen in THEIR chosen time.
        — RIGHT NOW–
        But that is just silly.
        If he ended the world tomorrow and finally sorted it out.
        People will complain that he didn’t do it 1 hour earlier before they were gunned down at the 7 eleven.
        Everyone will complain about the end not arriving in their desired time basically.

        So on judgement day I could say. 
        God you ended the world on the 29th but my whole family was mugged tortured and abused on the 28th?

        Why didn’t you end the world earlier, like 27th?

        The next guy says, No man… My family was abused on the 26th

        No man  make it earlier, my sister was kidnapped on the 1st.

        No move it one year before that..
        Then the year before that
        then the year before that…

        You get the idea now?
         Evenually everyone will want to move the date to the day before they suffered something painful and traumatic.

        That is ignoring what God wants to happen and putting our agendas.
        God wants as many sinners to have enough time to repent.
        I do not belittle the things you suffered, nor do I want anyone belittling the things I suffered, so lets call that even.

        God however is shown to be good and just, he is more than capable of making up for what people have suffered on this earth.
        On one of these posts I mentioned the leper and the rich man, where neither of them prayed the sinners prayer and yet they ended up in two different places in the afterlife.

        God is a fair judge and he can give us more than a billion years of heaven with our loved ones for every single minute that we have lost them here on earth.

        As for the problem of evil. C.S Lewis the theologian and also author of Narnia has really good points on this. I will just write down some short examples.

        Say I give you a choice to do good or harm
        But, I turned the world so that no matter what you do, nobody gets hurt.

        So, lets say you can choose to hit someone with a stick, but everytime you swing the stick, it loses mass and thus hits the other person without them even feeling it.
        Everytime you try to take something that doesn’t belong to you, it disappears.
        Every time you try to say something hurtful towards someone, your lips don’t move and you instantly turn mute.

        Oh but it doesn’t stop there….
        Before you even THINK of something malicious.
        You end up losing consciousness and forget what you were about to think…

        You didn’t think about that did you?
        That God does not only want to stop EVIL  EVENTS
        but even EVIL THOUGHTS

        you might not be offended at evil thoughts, but what if you could hear them?
        Well he can.

        Oh not even..
        Imagine you got a little sister.
        And you got a neighbor
        and every time he looks at her
        he thinks all sorts of things he wants to do to her

        would you trust that guy? he never done anything wrong.
        and say he never will.  would you still want your sister around  that person?
        be honest.

        As for people dying on earth..
        I think I posted it before already,
        but I would also like to ask you.

        So you want nobody to die until at least the age 100
        and nobody to ever get sick until when?

        How about someone who disagrees and wants the number to be brought to 120
        then 150 and 200 and 350 and 500
        and then someone just says, NO I DON’T WANT ANYONE DYING

        Isn’t that interesting…

        Well that is what heaven is for.

        But for this world of 80-100 years… there is still a plan being implemented.
        God wants people to see a world where our desires  RULE. We see the results of malicious actions.

        But there is hope.
        God is not willing that anyone perish. This is why he wants to save everyone.

        Do you want to be saved?

        Did you use to be “christian” but never understood it til now?

        None of us are worthy of heaven.  Even if you haven’t done acts of  malice and evil, you have thoughts and words that can and possibly have hurt somebody.

        If you are willing to take a second chance. That is what being BORN AGAIN is about.

        Not getting dunked in water or joining the Jesus club..
        It simply means being reborn or starting new and fresh.

        That is what it is.  Not some half hearted sinners prayer.
        It is a sincere desire to start over with forgiveness on your side enough to cover your future faults- faults bear in mind are not the same as deliberate continued sin. Kinda like accidents. You do your best, and God will do the rest.

      • I never said that you didn’t have any morals. The whole thing is a challenge.
        Saying plenty of atheists do such and such doesn’t match the challenge, the question is, DO YOU.
        Popularity is not a bad thing indeed, depends on how you use it.
        But the fact that people chase after it is the issue, not popularity itself.

        As for  the issue of evil, the answer is simple.
        Free Will and Heaven.

        Willing but not able =
        Able but not willing =
         Heaven is the response to these- He already created heaven.

        Whence cometh evil? – Humans Willingness to create it.
        The last part.
        Able /  Willing / Therefore call him God.

        The real issue is that people want these things to happen in THEIR chosen time.
        — RIGHT NOW–
        But that is just silly.
        If he ended the world tomorrow and finally sorted it out.
        People will complain that he didn’t do it 1 hour earlier before they were gunned down at the 7 eleven.
        Everyone will complain about the end not arriving in their desired time basically.

        So on judgement day I could say. 
        God you ended the world on the 29th but my whole family was mugged tortured and abused on the 28th?

        Why didn’t you end the world earlier, like 27th?

        The next guy says, No man… My family was abused on the 26th

        No man  make it earlier, my sister was kidnapped on the 1st.

        No move it one year before that..
        Then the year before that
        then the year before that…

        You get the idea now?
         Evenually everyone will want to move the date to the day before they suffered something painful and traumatic.

        That is ignoring what God wants to happen and putting our agendas.
        God wants as many sinners to have enough time to repent.
        I do not belittle the things you suffered, nor do I want anyone belittling the things I suffered, so lets call that even.

        God however is shown to be good and just, he is more than capable of making up for what people have suffered on this earth.
        On one of these posts I mentioned the leper and the rich man, where neither of them prayed the sinners prayer and yet they ended up in two different places in the afterlife.

        God is a fair judge and he can give us more than a billion years of heaven with our loved ones for every single minute that we have lost them here on earth.

        As for the problem of evil. C.S Lewis the theologian and also author of Narnia has really good points on this. I will just write down some short examples.

        Say I give you a choice to do good or harm
        But, I turned the world so that no matter what you do, nobody gets hurt.

        So, lets say you can choose to hit someone with a stick, but everytime you swing the stick, it loses mass and thus hits the other person without them even feeling it.
        Everytime you try to take something that doesn’t belong to you, it disappears.
        Every time you try to say something hurtful towards someone, your lips don’t move and you instantly turn mute.

        Oh but it doesn’t stop there….
        Before you even THINK of something malicious.
        You end up losing consciousness and forget what you were about to think…

        You didn’t think about that did you?
        That God does not only want to stop EVIL  EVENTS
        but even EVIL THOUGHTS

        you might not be offended at evil thoughts, but what if you could hear them?
        Well he can.

        Oh not even..
        Imagine you got a little sister.
        And you got a neighbor
        and every time he looks at her
        he thinks all sorts of things he wants to do to her

        would you trust that guy? he never done anything wrong.
        and say he never will.  would you still want your sister around  that person?
        be honest.

        As for people dying on earth..
        I think I posted it before already,
        but I would also like to ask you.

        So you want nobody to die until at least the age 100
        and nobody to ever get sick until when?

        How about someone who disagrees and wants the number to be brought to 120
        then 150 and 200 and 350 and 500
        and then someone just says, NO I DON’T WANT ANYONE DYING

        Isn’t that interesting…

        Well that is what heaven is for.

        But for this world of 80-100 years… there is still a plan being implemented.
        God wants people to see a world where our desires  RULE. We see the results of malicious actions.

        But there is hope.
        God is not willing that anyone perish. This is why he wants to save everyone.

        Do you want to be saved?

        Did you use to be “christian” but never understood it til now?

        None of us are worthy of heaven.  Even if you haven’t done acts of  malice and evil, you have thoughts and words that can and possibly have hurt somebody.

        If you are willing to take a second chance. That is what being BORN AGAIN is about.

        Not getting dunked in water or joining the Jesus club..
        It simply means being reborn or starting new and fresh.

        That is what it is.  Not some half hearted sinners prayer.
        It is a sincere desire to start over with forgiveness on your side enough to cover your future faults- faults bear in mind are not the same as deliberate continued sin. Kinda like accidents. You do your best, and God will do the rest.

      • I never said that you didn’t have any morals. The whole thing is a challenge.
        Saying plenty of atheists do such and such doesn’t match the challenge, the question is, DO YOU.
        Popularity is not a bad thing indeed, depends on how you use it.
        But the fact that people chase after it is the issue, not popularity itself.

        As for  the issue of evil, the answer is simple.
        Free Will and Heaven.

        Willing but not able =
        Able but not willing =
         Heaven is the response to these- He already created heaven.

        Whence cometh evil? – Humans Willingness to create it.
        The last part.
        Able /  Willing / Therefore call him God.

        The real issue is that people want these things to happen in THEIR chosen time.
        — RIGHT NOW–
        But that is just silly.
        If he ended the world tomorrow and finally sorted it out.
        People will complain that he didn’t do it 1 hour earlier before they were gunned down at the 7 eleven.
        Everyone will complain about the end not arriving in their desired time basically.

        So on judgement day I could say. 
        God you ended the world on the 29th but my whole family was mugged tortured and abused on the 28th?

        Why didn’t you end the world earlier, like 27th?

        The next guy says, No man… My family was abused on the 26th

        No man  make it earlier, my sister was kidnapped on the 1st.

        No move it one year before that..
        Then the year before that
        then the year before that…

        You get the idea now?
         Evenually everyone will want to move the date to the day before they suffered something painful and traumatic.

        That is ignoring what God wants to happen and putting our agendas.
        God wants as many sinners to have enough time to repent.
        I do not belittle the things you suffered, nor do I want anyone belittling the things I suffered, so lets call that even.

        God however is shown to be good and just, he is more than capable of making up for what people have suffered on this earth.
        On one of these posts I mentioned the leper and the rich man, where neither of them prayed the sinners prayer and yet they ended up in two different places in the afterlife.

        God is a fair judge and he can give us more than a billion years of heaven with our loved ones for every single minute that we have lost them here on earth.

        As for the problem of evil. C.S Lewis the theologian and also author of Narnia has really good points on this. I will just write down some short examples.

        Say I give you a choice to do good or harm
        But, I turned the world so that no matter what you do, nobody gets hurt.

        So, lets say you can choose to hit someone with a stick, but everytime you swing the stick, it loses mass and thus hits the other person without them even feeling it.
        Everytime you try to take something that doesn’t belong to you, it disappears.
        Every time you try to say something hurtful towards someone, your lips don’t move and you instantly turn mute.

        Oh but it doesn’t stop there….
        Before you even THINK of something malicious.
        You end up losing consciousness and forget what you were about to think…

        You didn’t think about that did you?
        That God does not only want to stop EVIL  EVENTS
        but even EVIL THOUGHTS

        you might not be offended at evil thoughts, but what if you could hear them?
        Well he can.

        Oh not even..
        Imagine you got a little sister.
        And you got a neighbor
        and every time he looks at her
        he thinks all sorts of things he wants to do to her

        would you trust that guy? he never done anything wrong.
        and say he never will.  would you still want your sister around  that person?
        be honest.

        As for people dying on earth..
        I think I posted it before already,
        but I would also like to ask you.

        So you want nobody to die until at least the age 100
        and nobody to ever get sick until when?

        How about someone who disagrees and wants the number to be brought to 120
        then 150 and 200 and 350 and 500
        and then someone just says, NO I DON’T WANT ANYONE DYING

        Isn’t that interesting…

        Well that is what heaven is for.

        But for this world of 80-100 years… there is still a plan being implemented.
        God wants people to see a world where our desires  RULE. We see the results of malicious actions.

        But there is hope.
        God is not willing that anyone perish. This is why he wants to save everyone.

        Do you want to be saved?

        Did you use to be “christian” but never understood it til now?

        None of us are worthy of heaven.  Even if you haven’t done acts of  malice and evil, you have thoughts and words that can and possibly have hurt somebody.

        If you are willing to take a second chance. That is what being BORN AGAIN is about.

        Not getting dunked in water or joining the Jesus club..
        It simply means being reborn or starting new and fresh.

        That is what it is.  Not some half hearted sinners prayer.
        It is a sincere desire to start over with forgiveness on your side enough to cover your future faults- faults bear in mind are not the same as deliberate continued sin. Kinda like accidents. You do your best, and God will do the rest.

      • I never said that you didn’t have any morals. The whole thing is a challenge.
        Saying plenty of atheists do such and such doesn’t match the challenge, the question is, DO YOU.
        Popularity is not a bad thing indeed, depends on how you use it.
        But the fact that people chase after it is the issue, not popularity itself.

        As for  the issue of evil, the answer is simple.
        Free Will and Heaven.

        Willing but not able =
        Able but not willing =
         Heaven is the response to these- He already created heaven.

        Whence cometh evil? – Humans Willingness to create it.
        The last part.
        Able /  Willing / Therefore call him God.

        The real issue is that people want these things to happen in THEIR chosen time.
        — RIGHT NOW–
        But that is just silly.
        If he ended the world tomorrow and finally sorted it out.
        People will complain that he didn’t do it 1 hour earlier before they were gunned down at the 7 eleven.
        Everyone will complain about the end not arriving in their desired time basically.

        So on judgement day I could say. 
        God you ended the world on the 29th but my whole family was mugged tortured and abused on the 28th?

        Why didn’t you end the world earlier, like 27th?

        The next guy says, No man… My family was abused on the 26th

        No man  make it earlier, my sister was kidnapped on the 1st.

        No move it one year before that..
        Then the year before that
        then the year before that…

        You get the idea now?
         Evenually everyone will want to move the date to the day before they suffered something painful and traumatic.

        That is ignoring what God wants to happen and putting our agendas.
        God wants as many sinners to have enough time to repent.
        I do not belittle the things you suffered, nor do I want anyone belittling the things I suffered, so lets call that even.

        God however is shown to be good and just, he is more than capable of making up for what people have suffered on this earth.
        On one of these posts I mentioned the leper and the rich man, where neither of them prayed the sinners prayer and yet they ended up in two different places in the afterlife.

        God is a fair judge and he can give us more than a billion years of heaven with our loved ones for every single minute that we have lost them here on earth.

        As for the problem of evil. C.S Lewis the theologian and also author of Narnia has really good points on this. I will just write down some short examples.

        Say I give you a choice to do good or harm
        But, I turned the world so that no matter what you do, nobody gets hurt.

        So, lets say you can choose to hit someone with a stick, but everytime you swing the stick, it loses mass and thus hits the other person without them even feeling it.
        Everytime you try to take something that doesn’t belong to you, it disappears.
        Every time you try to say something hurtful towards someone, your lips don’t move and you instantly turn mute.

        Oh but it doesn’t stop there….
        Before you even THINK of something malicious.
        You end up losing consciousness and forget what you were about to think…

        You didn’t think about that did you?
        That God does not only want to stop EVIL  EVENTS
        but even EVIL THOUGHTS

        you might not be offended at evil thoughts, but what if you could hear them?
        Well he can.

        Oh not even..
        Imagine you got a little sister.
        And you got a neighbor
        and every time he looks at her
        he thinks all sorts of things he wants to do to her

        would you trust that guy? he never done anything wrong.
        and say he never will.  would you still want your sister around  that person?
        be honest.

        As for people dying on earth..
        I think I posted it before already,
        but I would also like to ask you.

        So you want nobody to die until at least the age 100
        and nobody to ever get sick until when?

        How about someone who disagrees and wants the number to be brought to 120
        then 150 and 200 and 350 and 500
        and then someone just says, NO I DON’T WANT ANYONE DYING

        Isn’t that interesting…

        Well that is what heaven is for.

        But for this world of 80-100 years… there is still a plan being implemented.
        God wants people to see a world where our desires  RULE. We see the results of malicious actions.

        But there is hope.
        God is not willing that anyone perish. This is why he wants to save everyone.

        Do you want to be saved?

        Did you use to be “christian” but never understood it til now?

        None of us are worthy of heaven.  Even if you haven’t done acts of  malice and evil, you have thoughts and words that can and possibly have hurt somebody.

        If you are willing to take a second chance. That is what being BORN AGAIN is about.

        Not getting dunked in water or joining the Jesus club..
        It simply means being reborn or starting new and fresh.

        That is what it is.  Not some half hearted sinners prayer.
        It is a sincere desire to start over with forgiveness on your side enough to cover your future faults- faults bear in mind are not the same as deliberate continued sin. Kinda like accidents. You do your best, and God will do the rest.

      • Oh, and the challenge is towards people claiming to be Ex-Christian who give all sorts of reasons for their change. It is just something to help one realize why they think they are happy. Is it because they are free from their abandoned club or because they don’t feel as obligated to do certain things anymore.
        Thus the challenge to compare your “past life”
        if it were no different than before, then how could then have called themselves christian
        if it were different than before, then well, it has implications that will shame ones self, it doesn’t matter to me since I wouldn’t know. Anyone can just lie on the net.
        But the question is towards ones self.
        Do you still spend X hours at a homeless shelter, did you use to enjoy it, do you still do it, or did you ever do it..

        -something like that.

        And ask yourself why you feel that way towards being “free” from those things that you used to do.

        • Not so much things I used to do as much trying to fit into this christian society so I could get along with “most’ people. But I grew up and matured and feel more free than any christian that is always wondering when that imaginary fairy tale in the sky will throw a lighting bolt down.

          You can rationalize your neurotic delusion all you want. In the end we’re all worm food and nothing more.

  6. enough with the gods and godesses- time to assemble a humble cluster of stars

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