You say that if there was no god we could not disagree on what is good and fight as savages. First we DO fight as savages over what is good, and second if there was a god morality would be pretty clear and not open to interpretation.

Morality comes from an evolutionary impetus to see societal animals survive. We need to look out for each other in order to ensure our groups survival.

IF there is a god, there is no such thing as morality, only obedience because anything that he dictated would be moral and any step outside of that law would be immoral regardless of the motivation.

The verse clearly says that atheists can do no good.

Your apolagetics are childish at best. The mark of someone who doesn’t like what she hears and yet has no answer for it.

That verse doesn’t target any individual group or time and place. It speaks of those who say that there is no god.

Those people are atheists.

Nuff said.

Good, as far as the bible and god care, is praising god — worshipping him, honouring him, praying to him, converting others to do so, etc. Earthy good deeds are nice but God doesn’t count these as your ticket to heaven. When you think about it, so many so-called Christians, don’t really care that much about earthly good deeds. They’ll screw you out of every last penny, shove their customs down people’s throats etc. etc. But they will get into heaven because they have accepted him as their saviour.

Does god perform good deeds of the earthly kind? There sure seems to a lot of vicious ‘acts of god’ in the news these days! Always has been.

But don’t fret, Godless Girl, continue to do your good deeds, as I will. Heaven is not some place you would want to go anyway. If the price of admission is any indication, it is the most boring, slavish place and not somewhere you’d want to spend eternity. And form what I see, the company is atrocious.

If there was no God we could not disagree on what is good, we could only fight as savages. Arguments arise because both parties are set on proving one another wrong. And there is no sense in proving the other man wrong unless you had some agreement on what right and wrong were.

So how do you explain your desire to do ‘good’ or even your ability to call something good? Where does this ‘moral’ law come from if not from God?

(Keep in mind that this is purely an observation and I could very well be entirely wrong)
Why do most (again, an observation) atheists seem to not have a problem with death related things like the death penalty, abortion, or pulling the plug?

If I didn't believe in a life after death than wouldn't it make a heck of a lot more sense to keep myself, and everyone else, alive as long as possible? Wouldn't that be the whole goal of life? To live long enough to at least achieve a fulfilled life if not a long one?

It just doesn't make sense to me, and I again I repeat that that was all based on atheists I know and it could very well be a wrong observation in regards to the whole group (Plus, absolutes are always wrong).

This psalm is not a lament on atheism, but on the fact that an awful lot of people (all of them, in a typical psalmist-like fit of frustrated hyperbole) are simply wicked. The sense that you're supposed to get is that the psalmist sees these horrible things as symptoms of the human condition, not causes of it.

I would paraphrase the opening of this psalm like this: People are shameless. They say "there is no God", they are all corrupted, they all do evil, and fail to do anything that's good.

Of course that's not how a Serious Thinker(tm) would put it today, but as first-milennium-BCE rants go, it's not too bad.

I did not say that my thesis was to prove god wrong altogether. I was saying god (who is said to have fully inspired and thus approved these writings) is wrong in this case if this is what he thinks. I could have gone into how David wrote this psalm and all that, but that was not my point. The point was to very quickly and simply say something in response to that silly common insult thrown at atheists.

You said "It's not necessarily talking about you." What a relief that would be if the myriad people who say this verse is about non-theists thought as you do. Perhaps you could stand up for us when you hear someone tell an atheist they are a fool because they say there is no god.

I hope that clears it up for you.