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		<title>By: Godless Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2010/03/the-persecution-of-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>Godless Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wanted me to disagree, but I can&#039;t be two-faced! I&#039;ll just quote what I said in the post ;)

&lt;blockquote&gt;I know some are personally harassed or discriminated against because of weighty false assumptions about the character and morality of non-theists. This is wrong, and it should definitely stop. We do  have the right to speak up about inequality and gaining respect.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So take your disagreement and suck it. :P haha thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wanted me to disagree, but I can&#8217;t be two-faced! I&#8217;ll just quote what I said in the post <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>I know some are personally harassed or discriminated against because of weighty false assumptions about the character and morality of non-theists. This is wrong, and it should definitely stop. We do  have the right to speak up about inequality and gaining respect.</p></blockquote>
<p>So take your disagreement and suck it. <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  haha thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: FrankDeath</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2010/03/the-persecution-of-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-2267</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankDeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Have I been a victim of this treatment? Not really, no. I’ve had many people assume false things about my character since learning of my godlessness. I’ve had to keep my atheism a secret from my work environment for fear of layoffs and general stress.&quot;

It seems to me that the only reason you haven&#039;t been a victim of this treatment is because you&#039;ve kept your lack of religious beliefs a secret at work.  If you fear religious discrimination potentially resulting in layoffs and religious persecution resulting in general stress, then I&#039;d say you&#039;re not as fortunate as you think you are.

Atheists aren&#039;t being stoned to death, but we still have to deal with discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Have I been a victim of this treatment? Not really, no. I’ve had many people assume false things about my character since learning of my godlessness. I’ve had to keep my atheism a secret from my work environment for fear of layoffs and general stress.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems to me that the only reason you haven&#8217;t been a victim of this treatment is because you&#8217;ve kept your lack of religious beliefs a secret at work.  If you fear religious discrimination potentially resulting in layoffs and religious persecution resulting in general stress, then I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re not as fortunate as you think you are.</p>
<p>Atheists aren&#8217;t being stoned to death, but we still have to deal with discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: UnaBubba</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2010/03/the-persecution-of-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-2264</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only in America... I&#039;m usually willing to argue any adherent to any superstition to a standstill.  However, I reserve a particular passion for the brainwashed God Squad who turn up on your doorstop with their twisted agendae.

Bring on the anti-religious ethnic cleansers, I say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only in America&#8230; I&#8217;m usually willing to argue any adherent to any superstition to a standstill.  However, I reserve a particular passion for the brainwashed God Squad who turn up on your doorstop with their twisted agendae.</p>
<p>Bring on the anti-religious ethnic cleansers, I say!</p>
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		<title>By: Godless Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2010/03/the-persecution-of-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-2258</link>
		<dc:creator>Godless Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not whining – I mean, I’m tough and I can take it – but it seems stupid to have to defend NOT believing in magical, mythical stories and beings. I’m just saying it’s a shame it’s not the majority viewpoint in this world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh I&#039;m with you on this. Imagine having to defend your lack of belief in leprechauns! Preposterous. 

Great thoughts all around! I&#039;m so glad you asked this question in the first place. So thought-inspiring!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m not whining – I mean, I’m tough and I can take it – but it seems stupid to have to defend NOT believing in magical, mythical stories and beings. I’m just saying it’s a shame it’s not the majority viewpoint in this world.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh I&#8217;m with you on this. Imagine having to defend your lack of belief in leprechauns! Preposterous. </p>
<p>Great thoughts all around! I&#8217;m so glad you asked this question in the first place. So thought-inspiring!</p>
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		<title>By: nktrygg</title>
		<link>http://www.godlessgirl.com/2010/03/the-persecution-of-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-2250</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@OlderMusicGeek  

the reason agnostics don&#039;t get a bad rap is because that is not a position on whether a diety is real or not

agnostic is a position that we can&#039;t really know either way - it&#039;s a statement about knowledge.

so it doesn&#039;t challenge believers and they interpret that position as being positive.

whereas the atheist position is no evidence, no reason to accept the claims for a deity.


what&#039;s funny to me is that the only difference between a believer and an atheist is ONE.

all believers are atheists to all other faiths but their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@OlderMusicGeek  </p>
<p>the reason agnostics don&#8217;t get a bad rap is because that is not a position on whether a diety is real or not</p>
<p>agnostic is a position that we can&#8217;t really know either way &#8211; it&#8217;s a statement about knowledge.</p>
<p>so it doesn&#8217;t challenge believers and they interpret that position as being positive.</p>
<p>whereas the atheist position is no evidence, no reason to accept the claims for a deity.</p>
<p>what&#8217;s funny to me is that the only difference between a believer and an atheist is ONE.</p>
<p>all believers are atheists to all other faiths but their own.</p>
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		<title>By: nktrygg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>godbots don&#039;t think that they are persecuting us atheists when they say were are immoral perverts, they think they are being honest.

just like they think that saying the same about gays and lesbians is helping</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>godbots don&#8217;t think that they are persecuting us atheists when they say were are immoral perverts, they think they are being honest.</p>
<p>just like they think that saying the same about gays and lesbians is helping</p>
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		<title>By: Benia Zouras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benia Zouras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing this post.  I&#039;m flattered that my question inspired it.  

Okay, so &quot;persecuted&quot; was too harsh a word.  I agree with what you&#039;ve written, but the main point about my question is that we, atheists (aka &quot;heathens&quot;) take a lot of crap from people who really should know better.  Some of these folks are friends and otherwise intelligent individuals, but as soon as the A word comes up, they get so freaked out that they have to put us down, right to our faces.  

I&#039;m not whining - I mean, I&#039;m tough and I can take it - but it seems stupid to have to defend NOT believing in magical, mythical stories and beings.  I&#039;m just saying it&#039;s a shame it&#039;s not the majority viewpoint in this world.

I&#039;m careful not to stoop to that same, low level right back at them.  I would like to think that I&#039;m above it, but I&#039;m human.  I ebb.  I flow.  I cope.  I share.  Sometimes people like it and sometimes they don&#039;t.  I will not let them silence me in shame.  I have rights.  And not being in the majority may even be helping me better understand my (lack of) beliefs even better.  Adversity is an effective teacher.

For the record, I am not about persecuting people in the true sense of the word, as you defined above.  It&#039;s wrong to fuck with other people&#039;s lives over disagreements.  I&#039;m a humanist, after all.  I believe that if we all can&#039;t live a good life on Earth, that&#039;s it.  There&#039;s no second chance.  Atheists, at least for that one reason, seem to be more humane as a group than the religious groups have been.  I would like people to open their minds to all those differences and celebrate them, rather than homogenize the world into a bunch of clones.
.-= Benia Zouras&#039;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://xsarenkax.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-will-have-better-days.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Will Have Better Days&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this post.  I&#8217;m flattered that my question inspired it.  </p>
<p>Okay, so &#8220;persecuted&#8221; was too harsh a word.  I agree with what you&#8217;ve written, but the main point about my question is that we, atheists (aka &#8220;heathens&#8221;) take a lot of crap from people who really should know better.  Some of these folks are friends and otherwise intelligent individuals, but as soon as the A word comes up, they get so freaked out that they have to put us down, right to our faces.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not whining &#8211; I mean, I&#8217;m tough and I can take it &#8211; but it seems stupid to have to defend NOT believing in magical, mythical stories and beings.  I&#8217;m just saying it&#8217;s a shame it&#8217;s not the majority viewpoint in this world.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m careful not to stoop to that same, low level right back at them.  I would like to think that I&#8217;m above it, but I&#8217;m human.  I ebb.  I flow.  I cope.  I share.  Sometimes people like it and sometimes they don&#8217;t.  I will not let them silence me in shame.  I have rights.  And not being in the majority may even be helping me better understand my (lack of) beliefs even better.  Adversity is an effective teacher.</p>
<p>For the record, I am not about persecuting people in the true sense of the word, as you defined above.  It&#8217;s wrong to fuck with other people&#8217;s lives over disagreements.  I&#8217;m a humanist, after all.  I believe that if we all can&#8217;t live a good life on Earth, that&#8217;s it.  There&#8217;s no second chance.  Atheists, at least for that one reason, seem to be more humane as a group than the religious groups have been.  I would like people to open their minds to all those differences and celebrate them, rather than homogenize the world into a bunch of clones.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Benia Zouras&#8217;s last blog ..<a href="http://xsarenkax.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-will-have-better-days.html" rel="nofollow">I Will Have Better Days</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Godless Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godless Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I am definitely angry with the Boy Scouts for religious discrimination too. But hey, we all have one or two causes that get us riled up more than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I am definitely angry with the Boy Scouts for religious discrimination too. But hey, we all have one or two causes that get us riled up more than others.</p>
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		<title>By: Godless Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godless Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agnosticism sounds so... peacekeeping. It sounds like a non-committal middle-of-the-road position to take when you&#039;re too soft to declare &quot;I don&#039;t believe in any god&quot; or &quot;I believe in a specific spiritual path&quot;. I realize that to many, agnosticism is a philosophical position chosen by thinkers who have examined and searched for evidence. You&#039;re one of my very favorite agnostics since you are comfortable in your position and I believe you don&#039;t choose it just to avoid making a decision. But believers may just see you as &quot;a nice person who doesn&#039;t know any better yet.&quot; Watch out! Most of those evangelistic tracts are for you ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agnosticism sounds so&#8230; peacekeeping. It sounds like a non-committal middle-of-the-road position to take when you&#8217;re too soft to declare &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in any god&#8221; or &#8220;I believe in a specific spiritual path&#8221;. I realize that to many, agnosticism is a philosophical position chosen by thinkers who have examined and searched for evidence. You&#8217;re one of my very favorite agnostics since you are comfortable in your position and I believe you don&#8217;t choose it just to avoid making a decision. But believers may just see you as &#8220;a nice person who doesn&#8217;t know any better yet.&#8221; Watch out! Most of those evangelistic tracts are for you <img src='http://www.godlessgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Godless Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godless Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, how simple can it be, really. Most people are just douchebags out of ignorance. And as we know, ignorance breeds fear and fear breeds hate and so on. Confront the ignorance and the rest of it cleans right up (well, mostly). I do think that is one of the main reasons for movements like the Out Campaign and other public atheist/freethinker/secular efforts. Why sit in the dark and complain that people don&#039;t understand us? It just doesn&#039;t make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, how simple can it be, really. Most people are just douchebags out of ignorance. And as we know, ignorance breeds fear and fear breeds hate and so on. Confront the ignorance and the rest of it cleans right up (well, mostly). I do think that is one of the main reasons for movements like the Out Campaign and other public atheist/freethinker/secular efforts. Why sit in the dark and complain that people don&#8217;t understand us? It just doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
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