Why should outsiders have to work so hard at pointing out the flaws in Christianity when Christians do it just fine on their own?

I can take that vacation now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCohlCPSLlo

What you’ll hear: an interview on Way of The Master Radio with Todd Friel interviewing an ex faith pentecostal faith-healer, Mark Haville. They discuss how “being slain in the spirit,” faith healing, and revival services are a sham. The irony is that the same arguments about emotional manipulation, pastor preaching styles, and it all being in the person’s brain still work for fundamentalist anti-pentecostal Christianity. Maybe they’ll realize this one day.

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16 thoughts on “Faith Healing Debunked… by Christians”

Ahab · November 17, 2010 at 8:10 pm

Wow — Even though Haville was talking about faith healing, he unwittingly nailed charismatic worship on the head. His comments about suggestability, group dynamics, worship music were spot-on.

    Godless Girl · November 18, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Yes, very effective indeed. I grew up charismatic, and a lot of that rang true to me.

krissthesexyatheist · November 18, 2010 at 11:52 am

Too bad when “ex’s” expose religion for what it is it doesn’t get mainstream publicity/exposure. If every one could just know the story of peeps like Marjoe Gortner (child prodigy evangelical pastor who later exposed evangelical for what it is-a lie) then wouldn’t debunking Christianity be that much easier-I think so. UR awesome once again. C ya in the twitterverse.

Kriss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V252j868jTk

Jenny · November 18, 2010 at 11:53 pm

These people just plain piss me off. I REALLY hope they truly don’t understand the damage they’re doing to people worldwide. If they do, it’s just plain despicable.

This issue hits close to home. When I was a teenager, I was severely depressed. Suicidal. After my first attempt, my parents—fundamentalist Baptists—decided the best thing to do for me was to have a women put oil on my head and pray for me. For suicide. (She did that weird repeating the same thing over and over thing.) Because putting oil on my head will clearly convince me that my life is worth living.

I begged and pleaded for antidepressants. But these were denied to me because I “didn’t believe in God enough.” My lack of faith was clearly what was making me depressed. So I spent years and years of my life in a deep, chronic depression because I was denied help.

I have no problem with people being religious. Live and let live. But when religious beliefs prevent a human receiving much needed treatment, whether by her parents or her own delusions, then I have a problem with it.

    Godless Girl · November 19, 2010 at 3:42 am

    What a disturbing occurrence. I’m sorry you had to go through a struggle like that without the proper care and help.

TheSecretAtheist · November 19, 2010 at 11:45 pm

I take great pride in always having been something of a skeptic even when I was a Christian. It just took me a good many years to get over that whole being raised Christian bit!

Badger3k · November 23, 2010 at 1:02 pm

Irony – talking about scams and shams on The Way of the Master Radio? If only they would extend that line of thought…

Aaron · November 27, 2010 at 6:22 am

I love this type of stuff in a weird sadistic way.
I’m 17 now. I was a Christian until sept of 09.
Ever since being a skeptic and an atheist, I have always found faith healing claims / slain in the spirit claims etc. to be the most interesting. I think it’s because of my love for psychology.

    Godless Girl · November 28, 2010 at 1:23 am

    I honestly wonder what was going on in my brain when I was “slain in the spirit” or laughing, crying, etc. “in the spirit” back in the day. It fascinates me also.

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