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Morality without God?

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Frans DeWaal of the New York Times has written a thoughtful piece on the origins of morality, altruism, and whether God has anything to do with it. It’s definitely worth the read, so check it out.

What does science say about morality?

While I do consider religious institutions and their representatives — popes, bishops, mega-preachers, ayatollahs, and rabbis — fair game for criticism, what good could come from insulting individuals who find value in religion? And more pertinently, what alternative does science have to offer? Science is not in the business of spelling out the meaning of life and even less in telling us how to live our lives. We, scientists, are good at finding out why things are the way they are, or how things work, and I do believe that biology can help us understand what kind of animals we are and why our morality looks the way it does. But to go from there to offering moral guidance seems a stretch.

The Moral Landscape

Many people in the comments suggest Sam Harris’ new book The Moral Landscape to help explain what science can offer in terms of moral answers for humanity. I haven’t read it yet, but it’s high on my list! Have any of you read The Moral Landscape? What do you think?

Imagine no religion

DeWaal seems to think any ordered guidelines for moral living—even if formed completely without God—would be indistinguishable from the religion-based guidelines we have today.

… [T]he building blocks of morality are older than humanity, and that we do not need God to explain how we got where we are today. On the other hand, what would happen if we were able to excise religion from society? I doubt that science and the naturalistic worldview could fill the void and become an inspiration for the good. Any framework we develop to advocate a certain moral outlook is bound to produce its own list of principles, its own prophets, and attract its own devoted followers, so that it will soon look like any old religion.

Atheists tend to daydream about a world without religion (a la John Lennon). It seems as if DeWaal is afraid of what might happen if such a radical change came to pass. Personally, I don’t see this happening. Do you think we will evolve ourselves out of religion? Will we become a secular  world society one day or simply destroy ourselves first?

I recommend reading the conversation that continues in the comments of this piece. Many mature insights are shared. Here’s one response to the quote above:

But is religion really “an inspiration for the good” ? If the “building blocks” predate religion, why would we need religion to inspire us to do good ? Just like a child will make something out of the Lego blocks you put in front of him without you telling him to, we could very well just be tempted to use those blocks we have. At best, religion just has a placebo effect: some people think they are good because religion tells them to, while in reality, they would be good anyway.

What do you think?

(HT goodreasonnews)

Revised Poll: Do you think Jesus ever existed?

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Did a man ever exist whose name was Yeshua son of Yosef and Miriam, whose professions were carpenter/stoneworker and rabbi, and who was put to death by crucifixion? Was he the messiah? Was he made up by his followers? Was he just a normal bloke who taught unconventional ideas who ended up on the wrong side of the law?

What do you think? I’ve embedded the poll here. Share your thoughts in the comments below.

Do you think Jesus ever existed?

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NOTE: This poll was technically flawed when it was first posted, so I decided to start from scratch! Thanks for understanding. –GG, Dec. 4, 2010

A Brief History of Pretty Much Everything

Quick video catch of the day for your enjoyment!

February 23, 2010  |  history, science and skepticism, videos  |  4 Comments

The Original Godless Girl

The Godless Girl was a rebel, promoting science and secularism in her university. She passed out fliers proclaiming “Man made God!”, and lead a group called The Godless Society. School authorities attempted to stop the “blasphemous” behavior, and eventually this girl was sent to reform school. After a harrowing experience in solitary confinement, she eventually escaped. In a surprising twist, she converted, accepting Jesus as her savior.

Well, at least that’s the plot of the 1929 silent film The Godless Girl, directed by Cecil B. DeMille. When I was searching for a domain name to house my heathen bloggy bits, I stumbled on this movie. After reading the charged plot and, frankly, loving the alliteration of the name, I took the moniker for myself. The film illustrates plainly how atheists have been vilified in society. The introduction reads:

It is not generally known that there are Atheist Societies using the schools of the country as their battleground — attacking, through the Youth of the Nation, the beliefs that are sacred to most of the people. And no fanatics are so bitter as youthful fanatics.

Battleground! Attacking sacred beliefs! Fanatics! Gee, tell me how you really feel. Check out the first 5 minutes of The Godless Girl below:

October 23, 2009  |  history, the website, videos  |  2 Comments