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Meet GodlessGirl, Blag Hag & the Friendly Atheist!
Dec 26th
Come to the Chicagoland atheist meetup! Skeptics, atheists, freethinkers, and friends are all very welcome. We’ll be eating, drinking (optional), and making all kinds of merry whatnot. Bonus: You’ll get to see my ugly mug for the first time and my *le gasp* identity will be revealed (however bland it may be)!
Date: Saturday, January 2
Time: 7:00 PM
Where: Palos Hills Village Club
9750 S Roberts Rd
Palos Hills, IL 60465-1470
http://www.palosvillagepub.com
Featuring: Hemant of Friendly Atheist, GodlessGirl, and Jen of Blag Hag!
Don’t know us yet? No worries! All you have to do is show up and buy something to eat or drink. We’re super friendly and it’s my first time meeting Jen and Hemant anyway, so let me take care of the shyness, mkay?
I’d love to get to know all of you.
If you want to let us know you’re coming, leave a comment here or over at Jen’s post. Don’t be a stranger!
No True Atheist
Nov 2nd
@CestMoiTom has a tricky situation with one of his friends:
@LawrenceMills My Atheist friend going Christian...
-@CestMoiTom (Tom), 2-11-2009 11:26:20
@fyreflye Not sure how much of an Atheist he was. Maybe he was only acted a strong one because he wanted to be better friends with me
-@CestMoiTom (Tom), 2-11-2009 11:23:48
@LawrenceMills I'm not planning to go along. But I will stay friends with him, he's a cool guy and hopefully I'll make him rational.
-@CestMoiTom (Tom), 2-11-2009 11:37:25
What do you think about these words: “Not sure how much of an Atheist he was.” and “…hopefully I’ll make him rational.”?
One of the mistakes I make when discussing individuals in this situation is questioning the validity of their atheism before the conversion. It’s a gut reaction. We all dislike seeing our friends accept things we find foolish.
How often do you hear an evangelist or preacher say “I used to be an atheist, but then I met Jesus” or something eerily similar? How often do you think, “I doubt he was really an atheist” or “Atheists would never believe what he does now.” Regardless of the speaker’s intent, I suggest we re-frame how we think of former atheists. When we accuse them of being disingenuous or invalid, we are usually displaying perfect examples of the ”No True Scotsman” fallacy.
Newsflash: Assuming an atheist is always (or even usually) making decisions based on reason is naïve.
Atheists don’t believe in a deity. That doesn’t mean we never will–or that we cannot–buy into the beliefs of religions someday. It means that at this moment we do not believe. Period.
Atheism is our default from birth. It does not require work, critical thought, conversion, decision, or any other action. All theists were one atheists. they were just trained, taught, and convinced that theism was true.
When someone feels the desire to think and reason about what they believe on the topic of deities and the supernatural, then we can judge how they make their decisions.
Atheism and rational thought are not synonymous. Atheism and intelligence are not synonymous. Let’s get off our high horses and admit that we’re humans like everyone else: fallible, emotional, and sometimes bone-headed arses.
Try not to say “no true atheist would _____.” If you’re baffled at why someone turns to Jesus, Allah, cults, Vishnu, astrology, or any other woo-full belief, just remember that in order to be a “true” atheist, all that’s required is a lack of belief in a god.
“True” freethinkers, however, are another story altogether
Lesson of the day? Even atheists can be idiots. Encourage everyone to think reasonably and make free, educated decisions!
The Christian Atheist & Our Need for Community
Jun 8th
Is there such a thing as a Christian Atheist? Robert Jensen, a non-believing attender of St. Andrew’s Presbyterian in Austin, Texas, claims to be exactly that. How can this be? Why did this non-theist join a Christian congregation and even later preach sermons and lead prayers?
[Jensen recently] returned from a trip to South Africa. Folks there, he said, put a high premium on ubuntu, the concept that people become fully human by living within a community and recognizing the humanity of others.
In his mind, that’s crucial in trying to address problems such as racism, imperialism, sexual exploitation, environmental destruction and economic injustice.
…”I joined a Christian church to be part of that hope for the future, to struggle to make religion a force that can help usher into existence a world in which we can imagine living in peace with each other and in sustainable relation to the non-human world,” Jensen writes. “Such a task requires a fearlessness and intelligence beyond what we have mustered to date, but it also requires a faith in our ability to achieve it.
“That’s why I am a Christian.”
No, sir, you’re a good-hearted humanist in sheep’s clothing.
Having hope, living in peace, recognizing humanity in those around us, and using community to achieve it does not rely upon religion nor upon Christianity. The church may be one avenue that’s currently open to spreading good to this world, but it certainly doesn’t need to be the only one. And it could do a lot better.
Bettering humanity is a task for each of us. I agree with that concept of ubuntu; humans are community-oriented creatures. As a Christian in my past, and now as a freethinking atheist, I heartily believe that we become the best of all possible beings when we’re in community with one another. Being together crafts us into better people who can change the world.
We can all do these amazing things; we just need to build more avenues that are open to more people (and–may I say–avenues that don’t rely on mystical ghosts and superstitions to light the way). What better way to serve the world than to have secular communities that neither rely on ancient myths or supernatural motivations to do good, nor have to fit into the limited model that is “church”. Sure, it would take creativity, time, and hard work, but perhaps we could create a community of communities that could better serve those around us and the world than what’s been done before.
We don’t need to try to fit into an old, dusty model that’s too stuffed with misdeeds and mystical nonsense. We can make something new!
(hat tip to Whitney of happyatheistforum.com)





